Phoebe Alice Jones1
F, (9 July 1898 - 24 January 1978)
| Father* | John Jefferson Jones (Apr 1861 - 11 Dec 1930) | |
| Mother* | Sarah Jane Sloan (14 Mar 1866 - 18 Nov 1937) | |
Phoebe Alice Jones|b. 9 Jul 1898\nd. 24 Jan 1978|p2282.htm|John Jefferson Jones|b. Apr 1861\nd. 11 Dec 1930|p2288.htm|Sarah Jane Sloan|b. 14 Mar 1866\nd. 18 Nov 1937|p2287.htm|John L. Jones|b. c 1823|p2498.htm|Mary A. Milsap|b. c 1832\nd. b 1870|p2499.htm|Theophilus Sloan|b. c 1841\nd. 14 Aug 1883|p2307.htm|Nancy E. Morris|b. 12 Oct 1839\nd. 27 Jul 1916|p2306.htm| | ||
| Charts | Pedigree for Phoebe Alice Jones |
| Relationship | Grandmother of James Jay McKinney. |
| Last Edited | 9 Jan 2007 |
| Reference | MMMC |
| Researcher | 0 |
| Unrelated | 0 |
| Jim Ancestry Verified | Y |
| Note | Comments about Alice: And I lived within a block in a separate house from where the kids lived with their mother. And they had an open account down at the grocery store and over at the clothing store. Whatever they wanted they went and bought and I paid for them. Now she didn't overdo this thing, she was a good moral mother. She took the kids to Sunday School, and church, and all this sort of things. I'm quite sure, she never had anything to do with another man. She wouldn't even think of getting married or ever trying to earn a dollar for herself after I left. She never worked one day. She wouldn't earn one dollar. [She said] McKinney is going to take care of me. And I did. I shouldn't criticize her, like I said she was a good moral woman she was a good mother to the kids and all this sort of thing. That's why I respect that. She was a good mother to the boys.2 | |
| Married Name | McKinney3 | |
| Divorce* | Gene suspected they started not to get along after the death of Gail. Gene said that his Mom did not get over death of Gail and he did not think S.R. did either. Mom still had the flowers and the vase that held the flowers from the funeral. Per Gene, Buster and Margaret had to go to Fort Smith to testify in the divorce., Principal=Stanley Russell McKinney3 | |
| (Witness) Document | Edna (nee Jones) McDonald Bible. Dates of birth and deaths of children. , Principal=John Jefferson Jones, Principal=Sarah Jane Sloan | |
| Photo |  Top: Vina Jones Bottom: Alice Jones. Identified by Enola Ziebol. Photo owned by Enola Ziebol., Principal=Vina Jones | |
| Photo |  Circa 1924. L-R: William Bruce, Alice (nee Jones) McKinney, Gail McKinney, S.R. McKinney, and Edna (nee Jones) Bruce. Identified by Enola Ziebol. Date based on apparent age of Gail. Photo owned by Enola Ziebol. , Principal=Edna Mae Jones, Witness=Stanley Russell McKinney, Witness=Russel Gale McKinney | |
| Birth* | 9 July 1898 | Macon Co., MO4,5,6 |
| (Witness) Census | 8 June 1900 | Valley Township, Macon Co., MO, Macon Co., Missouri Census Images Jones Jeff J, Head, W(hite), M(ale), (birth:) Apr 1861, (age:) 39, M(arried), (years married:) 14, (birth place:) Missouri, (birth place father:) Kentucky, (birth place mother:) Missouri, (occupation:) Farmer, (can read:) no, (can write:) no, (can speak English:) yes, O(wned), M(ortgaged), F(arm), (farm on farm schedule:) 97 -- Sarah J, Wife, W(hite), F(emale), (birth:) Mch 1866, (age:) 34, M(arried), (years married:) 14, (mother of how many children:) 7, (how many of these children living:) 6, (birth place:) Ohio, (birth place father:) Ohio, (birth place mother:) Ohio, (can read:) no, (can write:) no, (can speak English:) yes -- Mary Etta, Daughter, W(hite), F(emale), (birth:) Jun 1889, (age:) 10, S(ingle), (birth place:) Missouri, (birth place father:) Missouri, (birth place mother:) Ohio, (can read:) yes, (can write:) no, (can speak English:) yes -- Effie, Daughter, W(hite), F(emale), (birth:) July 1881 (meant 1891), (age:) 8, S(ingle), (birth place:) Missouri, (birth place father:) Missouri, (birth place mother:) Ohio, (can read:) yes, (can write:) no, (can speak English:) yes -- Johnnie, Son, W(hite), M(ale), (birth:) Oct 1882 (meant 1892), (age:) 7, S(ingle), (birth place:) Missouri, (birth place father:) Missouri, (birth place mother:) Ohio -- Eunice, Daughter, W(hite), F(emale), (birth:) Oct 1884 (meant 1894), (age:) 5, S(ingle), (birth place:) Missouri, (birth place father:) Missouri, (birth place mother:) Ohio -- Vina, Daughter, W(hite), F(emale), (birth:) Nov 1886 (meant 1896), (age:) 3, S(ingle), (birth place:) Missouri, (birth place father:) Missouri, (birth place mother:) Ohio -- Alice, Daughter, W(hite), F(emale), (birth:) Jul 1898, (age:) 1, S(ingle), (birth place:) Missouri, (birth place father:) Missouri, (birth place mother:) Ohio, Principal=John Jefferson Jones, Principal=Sarah Jane Sloan7 |
| Photo* | before 1910 | MO,  1910 before. Alice Jones school photo. Alice McKinney. Identified by ? - I think I copied from sister Edna. Photo owned by . |
| (Witness) Census | 27 April 1910 | Valley Township, Macon Co., MO, Macon Co., Missouri Census Images Jones John J, Head, M(ale), W(hite), (age:) 48, M(arried), (number of years married:) 24, (birth place:) Missouri, (birth place father:) Kentucky, (birth place mother:) Kentucky, (language spoke:) English, (occupation:) Farmer, General farming, O(wn)A(ccount), (can read:) yes, (can write:) no, O(wned), M(ortgaged), F(arm), (# on farm scedule:)90 -- Sarah J, wife, F(emale), W(hite), (age:) 44, M(arried), (number of years married:) 24, (mother of children:) 11, (children living:) 10, (birth place:) Ohio, (birth place father:) Ohio, (birth place mother:) Ohio, (language spoke:) English, (occupation:) none, (can read:) yes, (can write:) no -- Vina, Daughter, F(emale), W(hite), (age:) 13, S(ingle), (birth place:) Missouri, (birth place father:) Missouri, (birth place mother:) Ohio, (language spoke:) English, (occupation:) none, (can read:) yes, (can write:) yes, (attended school:) yes -- Alice, Daughter, F(emale), W(hite), (age:) 11, S(ingle), (birth place:) Missouri, (birth place father:) Missouri, (birth place mother:) Ohio, (language spoke:) English, (occupation:) none, (can read:) yes, (can write:) yes, (attended school:) yes -- Simmie J, Son, M(ale), W(hite), (age:) 8, S(ingle), (birth place:) Missouri, (birth place father:) Missouri, (birth place mother:) Ohio, (occupation:) none, (attended school:) yes -- Edna M, Daughter, F(emale), W(hite), (age:) 5, S(ingle), (birth place:) Missouri, (birth place father:) Missouri, (birth place mother:) Ohio, (occupation:) none, (attended school:) no -- Thomas, M(ale), W(hite), (age:) 3, S(ingle), (birth place:) Missouri, (birth place father:) Missouri, (birth place mother:) Ohio, (occupation:) none -- Flossie, Daughter, F(emale), W(hite), (age:) 2, S(ingle), (birth place:) Missouri, (birth place father:) Missouri, (birth place mother:) Ohio, (occupation:) none John J's mother's birthplace is inconsistent with other censuses., Principal=John Jefferson Jones, Principal=Sarah Jane Sloan8 |
| Occupation* | before 1920 | Worked for a shoe factory during WW I.3 |
| Photo* | 1921 |  1921. Marriage photo. S.R. and Alice McKinney. Identified by Margaret. Photo owned by Margaret (nee McKinney) Lewellen.  1921. Marriage photo next to oil derrick. S.R. and Alice McKinney. Identified by Jim McKinney. Photo owned by Jim McKinney.  1921. Marriage photo. S.R. and Alice McKinney. Identified by Jim McKinney. Photo owned by Jim McKinney.  1921. Marriage photo. S.R. and Alice McKinney. Identified by Jim McKinney. Photo owned by Jim McKinney.  . Alice McKinney wedding ring, ring owned by Margaret (nee McKinney) Lewellen. . Identified by Margaret. Photo owned by Jim McKinney. , Principal=Stanley Russell McKinney |
| Marriage* | 26 July 1921 | Kansas City, Jackson Co., MO, Marriage: [Where along the way did you meet my Grandmother, Phoebe Alice Jones?] That was shortly after[?], 1919 or 1920 somewhere along the line. Her sister and her husband worked an oil lease that I was working on. Effie. The oldest. Edna was one of the youngest. I met her [Phoebe Alice Jones] when she came out to visit them. She went to work in the boarding house, while she was living with them. That's where I started courting her. That's where she asked me to marry her. [When did she ask you to marry her?] When? About 1919 or 1920. [How long had you gone out before you actually got married?] Oh I don't know. I just don't remember that. Maybe six months. On and off. I had no transportation, [?] when she walked. [What day did you actually get married on?] 26th day of July. [What year?] 1921. Went down to court house, bought a license walked over to the judge and he married us. [Did you have any of your family around?] No. Just she and I. She had went back to Missouri. And I was in Kansas. And we met in Kansas City. We got married. Another little thing getting back to your grandmother. Her asking me to marry her. That's the only way she would, is get married. [She would?] That's the only way she would! [She would?] She wouldn't unless I married her. [OK I see.] See what I mean. Just wanted to clarify that., Principal=Stanley Russell McKinney2 |
| Photo* | circa 1922 |  1922 circa. Alice and Gail McKinney. Identified by Jim McKinney. Date based on appearance of child. Photo owned by Jim McKinney.  1922 circa. Alice and Gail McKinney. Identified by Jim McKinney. Date based on appearance of child. Photo owned by .  1922 circa. Alice and Gail McKinney. Identified by Jim McKinney. Date based on appearance of child. Photo owned by Jim McKinney. , Principal=Russel Gale McKinney |
| Photo | 1922 |  1922 circa. S.R., Gail and Alice McKinney. Identified by Margaret - date based on appearance of Gail. Photo owned by Margaret (nee McKinney) Lewellen. , Principal=Stanley Russell McKinney, Witness=Russel Gale McKinney |
| Photo* | circa 1923 |  Alice (nee Jones) McKinney and children of Ernest and Mary Etta (nee Jones) Techau, Lewis, Clifford, Rachel, Neoma, and Harold Techau. Identified by Neoma Techau. Photo owned by Neoma Techau. , Principal=Mary Ettie Jones, Witness=Lewis Jefferson Techau, Witness=Clifford Ernest Techau |
| Photo | circa 1924 |  1924 circa. Back Row L-R: Mrs. Hull, Mrs. Thomas 2nd Row L-R: Gale McKinney, S.R. McKinney, Alice McKinney, Mr. A.J. Thomas, Mr. Ed Hull Front row L-R: Ethel Thomas, Arthur Thomas, and Billy Thomas. Identified by photograph - date based on appearance of children. Photo owned by Jim McKinney. , Principal=Stanley Russell McKinney, Witness=Russel Gale McKinney |
| Photo | before 1925 |  1925 before. Alice McKinney. Identified by Jim McKinney. Photo owned by Jim McKinney.  1925 before. Alice McKinney. Identified by ? . Photo owned by .  1925 before. Alice McKinney. Identified by Jim McKinney. Photo owned by Jim McKinney. |
| Photo | before 1925 |  1925 before. Alice McKinney. Identified by Margaret. Photo owned by Margaret (nee McKinney) Lewellen. |
| Photo* | before 1925 |  1925 before. Vina and Alice Jones. Identified by Neoma Techau. Photo owned by Jim McKinney. , Principal=Vina Jones |
| Photo | circa 1925 |  1925 circa. Alice and Gail McKinney. Identified by Jim McKinney. Date based on appearance of child. Photo owned by . , Principal=Russel Gale McKinney |
| Photo | circa 1926 |  1926 circa. Alice and Gail McKinney. Identified by Jim McKinney. Date based on appearance of child. Photo owned by Jim McKinney. , Principal=Russel Gale McKinney |
| Photo | circa 1927 | Paola, Miami Co., KS,  1983/05. House in Paola, KS where Buster was born, circa 1927. Identified by Gene McKinney. Photo owned by Jim McKinney. , Principal=Stanley Russell McKinney, Witness=Margaret Helen McKinney, Witness=Russel Gale McKinney |
| Photo | circa 1927 |  1927 circa. Alice, Gail, Margaret and S.R.McKinney. Identified by Margaret - date based on appearance of children. Photo owned by Margaret (nee McKinney) Lewellen.  1927 circa. Alice, Gail, Margaret and S.R.McKinney. Identified by Margaret - date based on appearance of children. Photo owned by Margaret (nee McKinney) Lewellen. , Principal=Stanley Russell McKinney, Witness=Russel Gale McKinney, Witness=Margaret Helen McKinney |
| Photo* | circa 1927 |  1927 circa. L-R: Harold McKinney, Margaret McKinney, Edna Jones, Alice (Jones) McKinney, Gail McKinney, and Eva (stanley) McKinney . Identified by Jim McKinney. Date based on appearance of kids. Photo owned by Jim McKinney. , Principal=Eva Mary Stanley, Witness=Edna Mae Jones, Witness=Russel Gale McKinney, Witness=Margaret Helen McKinney, Witness=Robert Harold McKinney |
| Photo* | circa 1928 |  Circa 1928. L-R: Harold McKinney, Margaret McKinney, Edna (nee Jones) McDonald, Alice (nee Jones) McKinney, Gail McKinney, and Eva (nee Stanley) McKinney. Identified by Ern McKinney. Date based on apparent age of Margaret. Photo owned by Jim McKinney. , Principal=Edna Mae Jones, Witness=Eva Mary Stanley, Witness=Robert Harold McKinney, Witness=Russel Gale McKinney, Witness=Margaret Helen McKinney |
| (Witness) Photo | after 16 August 1928 | Red Oak, IA,  1928. Johny Jones' Funeral. L-R: Flossie,Tommy, Edna, Jeffy, Alice, Vina, Eunice, Effie, Etta Seated: Sarah (nee Sloan) and John Jefferson Jones. Identified by Edna (nee Jones) McDonald and Neoma Techau. Photo owned by Enola Ziebol and Neoma Techau.  1928. Johny Jones' Funeral. L-R: Flossie, Edna, Alice, Vina, Eunice, Sarah (nee Sloan), Jefferson, Etta, Effie, Jeffy, Tommy. Identified by Edna (nee Jones) McDonald and Neoma Techau. Photo owned by Enola Ziebol and Neoma Techau.  1928. Johny Jones' Funeral. L-R: Flossie,Tommy, Edna, Jeffy, Alice, Vina, Eunice, Effie, Etta Seated: Sarah (nee Sloan) and John Jefferson Jones. Identified by Edna (nee Jones) McDonald and Neoma Techau. Photo owned by Enola Ziebol and Neoma Techau. , Principal=John Jefferson Jones, Principal=Sarah Jane Sloan |
| Photo | circa 1930 | Paola, Miami Co., KS,  Photo taken May 1983. House in Paola, KS where Gene was born, circa 1930. Identified by Gene McKinney. Photo owned by Jim McKinney. , Principal=Stanley Russell McKinney, Witness=Margaret Helen McKinney, Witness=Russel Gale McKinney, Witness=Edwin Gene McKinney |
| Photo | circa 1930 |  1930 circa. Margaret, Gene, Alice and Buster McKinney. Identified by Jim McKinney. Date based on appearance of kids. Photo owned by Margaret (nee McKinney) Lewellen. , Witness=Edwin Gene McKinney, Witness=Margaret Helen McKinney |
| Document* | after 1930 | KS, Document(s): , Principal=Stanley Russell McKinney |
| Residence | 11 December 1930 | Paola, Miami Co., KS, Mr. S. R. McKinney9 |
| Note* | after 1932 | Recollections from Gene McKinney: Mom was hard working with regard to her kids at home. Mom cooked for us and did everything a Mother does and then some. Dad wasn't there very much. When Dad left I was six and your Dad was 4. As far as Larry and I, our Dad wasn't around very much. Dad was still in town. He would come by every once in a while. We would go out to the rig. Mom was able to charge things for groceries [paid by S.R.] but Mom raised us, at least Larry and I. Mom came to all our football and basketball games. She spent her life raising her kids instead of going out and looking for someone for herself. Took us kids to the Paola Methodist Church all the time. Gene attributes his success to her upbringing. Diligent about getting us there. Always got to school and kept us a clean and neat as can be. Kept the house neat and gave us all the food we wanted even though we were in the depression then. We ate a lot of pinto beans. In later years I think she felt that she had raised all of her boys and now it was time for someone to take care of her. So when she went to our or Larry's she would expect our wives to wait on her. All memories are good about her. She did not move closer to kids after divorce because she lived in the small town of Paoila. Everybody looked after each other. Sheriff looked after us kids to keep us out of trouble. The town was kind of an extended family.3 |
| Residence* | 18 November 1937 | Paola, Miami Co., KS10 |
| Residence | 17 November 1938 | Paola, Miami Co., KS11 |
| Photo* | after 1940 |  L-R: Flossie,?,Edna, Jeffie, Eunice, and Alice Jones. Identified by Enola Ziebol. Photo owned by Enola Ziebol. , Principal=Flossie Irene Jones, Witness=Edna Mae Jones, Witness=Simmie Jefferson Jones, Witness=Eunice Jones |
| Document* | after 1941 | Paola, Miami Co., KS,  War ration coupon of the McKinney's |
| Divorce | circa 10 December 1949 | Las Vegas, Clark Co., NV, Marriage Years and Divorce: The early part of the marriage, I guess I was. I will go ahead and state this. That I knew I had made a mistake after I got married. [How soon after?] Not very long. [How did you know you made a mistake?] Well I just knew I wouldn't be happy with all I had. I had a lot a pride, I was going to make it work anyhow. [Why did you know you made a mistake?] Well, one of the reasons was being incompatible. She was very poorly educated. She barely got out of the forth grade. She could barely write her own name. And me I am going to be smart, I am going to educate her. I am going to teach her to write. I am going to teach her to read and I am going to do these things. And I tried to do that. It was impossible. [She just didn't want to learn.] Yeah. She had a one track mind. Insanely jealous. [edited] That I . . . like I said before, then along came a great baby. We were very proud. Which this was before things went break [?] apart. I was very, very proud. There wasn't anything going to happen, I was going to make it work. There had never been any divorces in the McKinney's that I knew of, and I wasn't about to be the first. And as things got further along, I got accused later of being untrue and so forth. Which caused me to be untrue! [edited] I feel like that you feel like I am criticizing your grandmother, which in a sense I am, I guess. You couldn't change her mind about anything. And as time went by, I . . . kids came along and kids came along, [?] I started being accused of things I didn't do. Therefore I started doing things I was being accused of. And finally it just came to a climax, I told her I wanted to move out. All of the things I did, I mean, one of the main reasons I did, because, the way we were getting along, and both us fighting in front of the kids. It was better off for me to be gone than it was to fight in front of the kids. That's the way I looked at it. And I left and went back on account of the kids. I went and left again and went and tried on account of the kids. I went back three times. The last time I went back and came back in home, at two o'clock in the morning. I'd been out on rig site[?], I got into business then, I was making a little money, that was another thing. If I got $400 for doing a job I ought to have $400. She'd say "where is the money? You're chasing or you're using it on your women. " and all that sort of things. Which I started doing. And when I went home this one night, Margaret was about 12 or 13 years old, and she started accusing me of having been out, and pulled me into the room where Margaret was asleep, and woke Margaret up in bed. [Edited, She said I was untrue] That's when I left. Now she isn't here to protect herself from what I am telling you. You'll just have to accept it, what I am telling you. Whether I was or whether I wasn't, that was nothing to get a child, a twelve year old girl mixed up in. So you asked for this story. [How old was my Dad, Larry McKinney, at this time?] Four years old. [I take it your marriage was already going bad before Gail died?] Oh no. No, no, no it wasn't until after he died. He died in 1930. [So up to that point there were no problems?] [There were some problems, yeah. But there hadn't been any break up until after that. It went on until 1937 before I moved out. Now you left out one little thing there between 1937 and 1946. [What's that?] I am not going to tell you about it. That's apart of my life, that's nobody's business, except those that already know about it. The reason I lived the way I did live wasn't the way I wanted to live. It was because your Grandmother wouldn't give me a divorce to let me live like I wanted to live. So I lived like I wanted to live anyhow. I don't know if that makes sense or not. Talk about going broke. I guess it bore on my mind a lot. With the divorce thing with your grandmother. See I was in court seven times over a period of thirteen years, before I got a divorce. She had reason and she wouldn't. I didn't have reason and I couldn't. That's why I got beat all along. But the main thing about going broke is this. I had a good start in business and the first time I sued for divorce, she agreed, but she wanted everything I had. I'd have to go back to work with my hands. I couldn't stay in business. So I go to work and I mean she agrees to take so much money to settle. I go to work I make money, I work my butt off. Next year, she still wanted it all, she wouldn't settle. I wasn't about to let myself go broke. I just wasn't going to do it. Go back to work for someone else when I had a good start. Until this very day, I mean in recent years, very often I dream about being broke. Just the other night I dreamt I was broke all I had was eight dollars. Time after time, I wake up had a dream about never had a quarter. One time I borrowed money from mother for a postage stamp in my dream. I guess I had a horror of going broke. The other amusing thing about this divorce thing . . . or the most amusing. Arkansas had the same laws that Nevada had as far as divorce is concerned. Six weeks residence, no problem. So I heard about Arkansas. My operation at that time was just out of Kansas City and there was 300 miles down to Fort Smith, Arkansas. And when you establish residence in the state where you want to get a divorce you supposed to be seen, every day, some time during that period by somebody. Well with the train service I could get on a train down at Fort Smith, Arkansas and go to Kansas City and transact business, and get back the same day. So I went down there and I filed for divorce. The lawyers always tell you there is no problem. They don't tell you. But believe me, if it is contested bitterly, there isn't any easy way, if it is contested. There is no way. But the funny part of it is I went down there to get a divorce and that ol' judge down there allowed your grandmother to transport her attorney and witnesses at my expense. Then just beat the hell out of me. I laugh about it now. Cost me three or four thousand dollars. So I thought about going to Mexico. This sort of thing. But, if its going to be contested . . . . actually you get a Mexican divorce but it won't be recognized back in this country if its contested. So I learned a lot about that. Not only that, while I was down there I had . . . Ern was working for me and a couple more guys . . . they were drilling a well, a pretty deep well, they got into a lot of problems . . . and I was directing the operations by telephone in Fort Smith, Arkansas [S..R. laughs]. It was really something else. [Why did you decide to come to Las Vegas?] One of the reasons was the divorce thing. And I got beat in Las Vegas the first time. [What divorce?] Yeah. [Is that where you actually got divorced in Las Vegas?] Yeah. And I tell you, she fought it bitterly. And she would have been a lot better off if she had got herself a job and had something to do rather than just sitting around mooning about it or whatever. I shouldn't criticize her, like I said she was a good moral woman she was a good mother to the kids and all this sort of thing. That's why I respect that. She was a good mother to the boys. But so I sold out my rigs, which was personal property. [Stuffed] the money in my jeans, and I was gone. A three year separation. Well, when it came to trial, here she come, fighting it. And here came a affidavit though the court, a piece of paper, that your grandmother laid out in front of your dad, "here sign this, son." It was an affidavit that I came home and slept with her one night during that three year period. And I didn't. And they threw it out. Then I had to wait again, and establish three years separation from the time she said I had. Then there was no alternative. She couldn't find what I owned. [In Las Vegas?] Yeah, or any place else. But the point of that was, there was a continuation of alimony and support money and a property settlement which I had the money to take care of it. So I don't mean anything that I'm saying here, I don't mean to appear to be derogatory towards your grandmother or anything of the kind. She was like she was. We couldn't get along. We were incompatible. I told you the main reason why I left, for good. On account, that it was better for the kids, if I was away, than if I was there. Now you can call me a nasty old man or a mean old man or whatever. But if I had the whole thing to do it over, I think I'd do it about the same way, because it all turned out all right. I've been the happiest man on earth for the last forty years. Maybe the unhappiest the first forty of my life. [When did you actually get divorced? ] Seven days before I married Catharine. [When did you marry Catharine?] December the 17th, 1949. Buster's Memories of parents divorce: I was in 5th grade when he left permanently. Remembers that they lived in a house when he started kindergarten. That house was four or five blocks from a well driller named Willis and his wife. This was the first Buster remembers of Mom raising heck about S.R. being gone all the time with this Willis woman. Buster never knew if it was true. Does not remember actually having to testify in trial. We went to Fort Smith, Arkansas with Mom and her attorney in a nice Ford convertible to testify. Margaret and he just cruised around Fort Smith while the others were in court. Does not even remember seeing court room in Paola. Since he worked summers with his Dad he remembers hearing from both his mom and dad on their side of the story. Finally time them he was tired of hearing about it., Principal=Stanley Russell McKinney2 |
| Photo | 1950 | Paola, Miami Co., KS,  1950. Paola, KS. Alice McKinney. Identified by photograph. Photo owned by Jim McKinney. |
| Residence | March 1951 | Paola, Miami Co., KS12 |
| Photo | circa 1955 |  Top Row L-R: Francis Techau, Flossie (nee Jones) Shafer, Tommy, Glen De Jones, Simmie Jr. Jones, Myrtle (nee Nelson) Jones, Alice (nee Jones) McKinney, Jeffie Jones, Russ Shafer Bottom Kneeling L-R: Vernon McDonald, Edna (nee Jones) McDonald, and Eunice J. . Identified by Enola Ziebol. Photo owned by Enola Ziebol. , Principal=Edna Mae Jones, Witness=Frances Techau, Witness=Flossie Irene Jones, Witness=Thomas Jones, Witness=Simmie Jefferson Jones Jr., Witness=Simmie Jefferson Jones, Witness=Vernon Calvin McDonald, Witness=Eunice Jones |
| (Witness) Photo | after 1960 |  L-R: Jeffie Jones, Oad Harriott, Enola (nee Bruce) Ziebol, Edna (nee Jones) McDonald, Donal Harriott, and Alice (nee Jones) McKinney. Identified by Enola Ziebol. Photo owned by Enola Ziebol. , Principal=Simmie Jefferson Jones, Principal=Edna Mae Jones |
| Document* | circa 1970 | Document(s): , Principal=Margaret Helen McKinney |
| Death* | 24 January 1978 | Sante Fe Hospital, Topeka, Shawnee Co., KS, Death residence locality Zip Code: 66612. Had a stroke around Nov 17, 1977 and died a couple months later in January 24, 1978.4,5,3 |
| Burial* | after 24 January 1978 | Paola, Miami Co., KS |
| Photo | after 24 January 1978 | Paola, Miami Co., KS,  1983/05. Alice (nee Jones) McKinney's grave in Paola, KS. Identified by Jim McKinney. Photo owned by Jim McKinney.  1983/05. Alice (nee Jones) McKinney and son Gail's grave (who died as a child) in Paola, KS. Identified by Jim McKinney. Photo owned by Jim McKinney. |
| Document | after 24 January 1978 | KS, Document(s): |
Family | Stanley Russell McKinney | |
| Divorce* | Gene suspected they started not to get along after the death of Gail. Gene said that his Mom did not get over death of Gail and he did not think S.R. did either. Mom still had the flowers and the vase that held the flowers from the funeral. Per Gene, Buster and Margaret had to go to Fort Smith to testify in the divorce., Principal=Stanley Russell McKinney3 | |
| Marriage* | 26 July 1921 | Kansas City, Jackson Co., MO, Marriage: [Where along the way did you meet my Grandmother, Phoebe Alice Jones?] That was shortly after[?], 1919 or 1920 somewhere along the line. Her sister and her husband worked an oil lease that I was working on. Effie. The oldest. Edna was one of the youngest. I met her [Phoebe Alice Jones] when she came out to visit them. She went to work in the boarding house, while she was living with them. That's where I started courting her. That's where she asked me to marry her. [When did she ask you to marry her?] When? About 1919 or 1920. [How long had you gone out before you actually got married?] Oh I don't know. I just don't remember that. Maybe six months. On and off. I had no transportation, [?] when she walked. [What day did you actually get married on?] 26th day of July. [What year?] 1921. Went down to court house, bought a license walked over to the judge and he married us. [Did you have any of your family around?] No. Just she and I. She had went back to Missouri. And I was in Kansas. And we met in Kansas City. We got married. Another little thing getting back to your grandmother. Her asking me to marry her. That's the only way she would, is get married. [She would?] That's the only way she would! [She would?] She wouldn't unless I married her. [OK I see.] See what I mean. Just wanted to clarify that., Principal=Stanley Russell McKinney2 |
| Divorce | circa 10 December 1949 | Las Vegas, Clark Co., NV, Marriage Years and Divorce: The early part of the marriage, I guess I was. I will go ahead and state this. That I knew I had made a mistake after I got married. [How soon after?] Not very long. [How did you know you made a mistake?] Well I just knew I wouldn't be happy with all I had. I had a lot a pride, I was going to make it work anyhow. [Why did you know you made a mistake?] Well, one of the reasons was being incompatible. She was very poorly educated. She barely got out of the forth grade. She could barely write her own name. And me I am going to be smart, I am going to educate her. I am going to teach her to write. I am going to teach her to read and I am going to do these things. And I tried to do that. It was impossible. [She just didn't want to learn.] Yeah. She had a one track mind. Insanely jealous. [edited] That I . . . like I said before, then along came a great baby. We were very proud. Which this was before things went break [?] apart. I was very, very proud. There wasn't anything going to happen, I was going to make it work. There had never been any divorces in the McKinney's that I knew of, and I wasn't about to be the first. And as things got further along, I got accused later of being untrue and so forth. Which caused me to be untrue! [edited] I feel like that you feel like I am criticizing your grandmother, which in a sense I am, I guess. You couldn't change her mind about anything. And as time went by, I . . . kids came along and kids came along, [?] I started being accused of things I didn't do. Therefore I started doing things I was being accused of. And finally it just came to a climax, I told her I wanted to move out. All of the things I did, I mean, one of the main reasons I did, because, the way we were getting along, and both us fighting in front of the kids. It was better off for me to be gone than it was to fight in front of the kids. That's the way I looked at it. And I left and went back on account of the kids. I went and left again and went and tried on account of the kids. I went back three times. The last time I went back and came back in home, at two o'clock in the morning. I'd been out on rig site[?], I got into business then, I was making a little money, that was another thing. If I got $400 for doing a job I ought to have $400. She'd say "where is the money? You're chasing or you're using it on your women. " and all that sort of things. Which I started doing. And when I went home this one night, Margaret was about 12 or 13 years old, and she started accusing me of having been out, and pulled me into the room where Margaret was asleep, and woke Margaret up in bed. [Edited, She said I was untrue] That's when I left. Now she isn't here to protect herself from what I am telling you. You'll just have to accept it, what I am telling you. Whether I was or whether I wasn't, that was nothing to get a child, a twelve year old girl mixed up in. So you asked for this story. [How old was my Dad, Larry McKinney, at this time?] Four years old. [I take it your marriage was already going bad before Gail died?] Oh no. No, no, no it wasn't until after he died. He died in 1930. [So up to that point there were no problems?] [There were some problems, yeah. But there hadn't been any break up until after that. It went on until 1937 before I moved out. Now you left out one little thing there between 1937 and 1946. [What's that?] I am not going to tell you about it. That's apart of my life, that's nobody's business, except those that already know about it. The reason I lived the way I did live wasn't the way I wanted to live. It was because your Grandmother wouldn't give me a divorce to let me live like I wanted to live. So I lived like I wanted to live anyhow. I don't know if that makes sense or not. Talk about going broke. I guess it bore on my mind a lot. With the divorce thing with your grandmother. See I was in court seven times over a period of thirteen years, before I got a divorce. She had reason and she wouldn't. I didn't have reason and I couldn't. That's why I got beat all along. But the main thing about going broke is this. I had a good start in business and the first time I sued for divorce, she agreed, but she wanted everything I had. I'd have to go back to work with my hands. I couldn't stay in business. So I go to work and I mean she agrees to take so much money to settle. I go to work I make money, I work my butt off. Next year, she still wanted it all, she wouldn't settle. I wasn't about to let myself go broke. I just wasn't going to do it. Go back to work for someone else when I had a good start. Until this very day, I mean in recent years, very often I dream about being broke. Just the other night I dreamt I was broke all I had was eight dollars. Time after time, I wake up had a dream about never had a quarter. One time I borrowed money from mother for a postage stamp in my dream. I guess I had a horror of going broke. The other amusing thing about this divorce thing . . . or the most amusing. Arkansas had the same laws that Nevada had as far as divorce is concerned. Six weeks residence, no problem. So I heard about Arkansas. My operation at that time was just out of Kansas City and there was 300 miles down to Fort Smith, Arkansas. And when you establish residence in the state where you want to get a divorce you supposed to be seen, every day, some time during that period by somebody. Well with the train service I could get on a train down at Fort Smith, Arkansas and go to Kansas City and transact business, and get back the same day. So I went down there and I filed for divorce. The lawyers always tell you there is no problem. They don't tell you. But believe me, if it is contested bitterly, there isn't any easy way, if it is contested. There is no way. But the funny part of it is I went down there to get a divorce and that ol' judge down there allowed your grandmother to transport her attorney and witnesses at my expense. Then just beat the hell out of me. I laugh about it now. Cost me three or four thousand dollars. So I thought about going to Mexico. This sort of thing. But, if its going to be contested . . . . actually you get a Mexican divorce but it won't be recognized back in this country if its contested. So I learned a lot about that. Not only that, while I was down there I had . . . Ern was working for me and a couple more guys . . . they were drilling a well, a pretty deep well, they got into a lot of problems . . . and I was directing the operations by telephone in Fort Smith, Arkansas [S..R. laughs]. It was really something else. [Why did you decide to come to Las Vegas?] One of the reasons was the divorce thing. And I got beat in Las Vegas the first time. [What divorce?] Yeah. [Is that where you actually got divorced in Las Vegas?] Yeah. And I tell you, she fought it bitterly. And she would have been a lot better off if she had got herself a job and had something to do rather than just sitting around mooning about it or whatever. I shouldn't criticize her, like I said she was a good moral woman she was a good mother to the kids and all this sort of thing. That's why I respect that. She was a good mother to the boys. But so I sold out my rigs, which was personal property. [Stuffed] the money in my jeans, and I was gone. A three year separation. Well, when it came to trial, here she come, fighting it. And here came a affidavit though the court, a piece of paper, that your grandmother laid out in front of your dad, "here sign this, son." It was an affidavit that I came home and slept with her one night during that three year period. And I didn't. And they threw it out. Then I had to wait again, and establish three years separation from the time she said I had. Then there was no alternative. She couldn't find what I owned. [In Las Vegas?] Yeah, or any place else. But the point of that was, there was a continuation of alimony and support money and a property settlement which I had the money to take care of it. So I don't mean anything that I'm saying here, I don't mean to appear to be derogatory towards your grandmother or anything of the kind. She was like she was. We couldn't get along. We were incompatible. I told you the main reason why I left, for good. On account, that it was better for the kids, if I was away, than if I was there. Now you can call me a nasty old man or a mean old man or whatever. But if I had the whole thing to do it over, I think I'd do it about the same way, because it all turned out all right. I've been the happiest man on earth for the last forty years. Maybe the unhappiest the first forty of my life. [When did you actually get divorced? ] Seven days before I married Catharine. [When did you marry Catharine?] December the 17th, 1949. Buster's Memories of parents divorce: I was in 5th grade when he left permanently. Remembers that they lived in a house when he started kindergarten. That house was four or five blocks from a well driller named Willis and his wife. This was the first Buster remembers of Mom raising heck about S.R. being gone all the time with this Willis woman. Buster never knew if it was true. Does not remember actually having to testify in trial. We went to Fort Smith, Arkansas with Mom and her attorney in a nice Ford convertible to testify. Margaret and he just cruised around Fort Smith while the others were in court. Does not even remember seeing court room in Paola. Since he worked summers with his Dad he remembers hearing from both his mom and dad on their side of the story. Finally time them he was tired of hearing about it., Principal=Stanley Russell McKinney2 |
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Citations
- AKA Alice.
- [S46] Interview with unknown informant (unknown informant address). Unknown repository (unknown repository address).
- [S42] Interview with unknown informant (unknown informant address). Unknown repository (unknown repository address).
- [S2] Unknown compiler, compiler, "Social Security Death Index"; Ancestral File (1993), unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "Social Security Death Index."
- [S3] Unknown family info, Edna (nee Jones) McDonald Bible (n.p.: n.pub., unknown publish date); unknown present owner, unknown location.
- [S4] 1900 US Federal Census: Valley Township, Macon Co., MO: Supv Dist No? Enum.Dist. 88 Sheet No. 6 Line 15.
- [S4] 1900 US Federal Census: Missouri, Macon Co., Valley Township, Enumeration Dist. 88, Sheet No. 6A, Dwelling 106, Family 107. Roll: T623 873.
- [S5] 1910 US Federal Census: Missouri, Macon Co., Valley Township, Enumeration Dist. 94, Sheet No. 5B, Dwelling 103, Family 103. Roll: T624_796, Image: 1111.
- [S85] Unknown article title, Obituary, unknown location, Xeroxed obituary of J. J. Jones provided by Neoma Techau.
- [S85] Unknown article title, Obituary, unknown location, Sarah J. Jones Obituary. November 1937. Unknown newspaper.
- [S85] Unknown article title, Obituary, unknown location, Obituary of Vina (nee Jones) Harriot, November 1938 in an unknown Iowa? paper.
- [S85] Unknown article title, Obituary, unknown location, Effie Jones Techau Obituary. March 1951. Unknown newspaper.